Ive invested at least 9 dealership visits and several hours of work missed, my car is still not properly repaired to avoid this misfiring issue. The work order cites the Soto class action lawsuit. It is all covered by Honda because this was a problem with several models. Apparently our 8 year warranty was up in June (8 years from original purchase). Because i bought the van second hand it was out of the warranty time frame. What about the FIT??? Use your VIN or plate to find out. We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. I also have an 8 year/120K Honda Care warranty, so, in theory, I should be covered until May 2018 if the problem crops up again. I feel they got a slap on the wrist and we pay dearly for it. If things have reached that point I dont understand why they just didnt source a new engine and be done with it. 13V016000. They checked the spark plug and it was fouled. Now same thing is going on with it but the codes are for the catalytic converter this time..all 3 are blown now and blocked. There is a safety feature that shuts down the engine if you barely depress the brake pedal, which I was unknowingly doing with my left foot sometimes. My 2012 Honda Accord is having these same issues. I shouldnt have to pay for any of this, but at least Honda is picking up 75%. Do to many engine seizures, a recall was issued. Booo! It had also been regularly serviced. Therefore, when the piston rings fail, the car will experience a myriad of problems that may ultimately damage the entire engine. Anonymous, (2012 Honda Pilot EX 3.5-L V6) "Had to replace right front ball joint at less than 60k miles. My perspective is that Honda engineering pushed VCM a little to much to get their EPA rating up 1 or 2 miles to a gallon. Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information. They told me 1 quart per 1000 miles was normal. I cant believe they wont admit it. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Did Anybody have any luck! VCMuzzler II to Disable / muzzle VCM on Honda Acura vehicles VCM Muzzler delete | eBay. Fastest one I did was about 3.5 hours. Are there any recalls on this? If this happens, uncontrolled oil burning may occur inside the engine, causing . I have to add 2-3 quarts depending how much I drive. document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_4" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Please note: Top Class Actions is not a settlement I spoke with Hondas customer relations office and the dealer. Now have 104k miles and have spent the last 3 months troubleshooting a misfire code with our mechanic. I didnt have an extended warranty so Honda care wasnt much help but the department manager of my Honda dealership was helpful Im not sure if it was because I called so often (and was a squeaky wheel) but he was very helpful. Why do I have to put out $500 on HONDAs mistake?? yes? maybe the cars been at the dealership for a long time, because theyre swamped with warranty work, Perhaps that other warranty work is repairing engines, just like OPs, Maybe they were already seriously backlogged, when OP showed up. I was told by the service tech that the cylinder head valve problem was caused by the the faulty piston rings and that it had also damaged the spark plugs. We called the hotline and they will call in 2 days, but doesnt look promising. Have owned Hondas since 1998. Since that time (Aug '15) I havent had any problems. For anyone having this issue it may be worth calling them to see if anything can be done even if the warranty extension has expired. Replace the plugs, put a bottle of injector cleaner in the tank and fill with top tier Premium gas. Honda is extremely unsafe! Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? JUST had the same issue for our 2011 Odyssey, SO INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING. I have a 2008 Honda Accord V-6 EXL. After 20 years as a loyal customer. I would like advice on how I should proceed following this lawsuit. I just barely understand what the piston rings do. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls:
Maybe a few weeks later, they all misfired again. I had to argue to get a loaner from them. I did call Honda of America Support and they told me the vehicle was not part of this settlement and would offer no further assistance on this subject, except that I my passenger airbag needed to be replaced. What a tiny recall window! I called them the next day and they said parts (rings) are on back order and I wont get my car back for about a week. Thank you for the help! Had cylinder 1 misfire 6/15 and repaired, had the same issue 11/16 also repaired, now having the same issue AGAIN 5/17 six months later. Im having problems with misfire just replaced spark plugs and reset for 600.00. The car runs perfect still. I have a 2009 honda accord exl v6, Ive had all of the above problems. I recently brought my car in for the last Oil consumption reading and it was found that the engine burned at least 2 quarts in less than 1200 miles. Exactly!!! A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. This really needs to be a recall. what can i do i do now? Ive already spent well over the cost of the car & become in debt due to continuing problems!! If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. By Tom Torbjornsen. UPDATE: A federal judge granted final approval to the Honda engine misfire class action settlement at a March 21, 2014, Final Fairness Hearing. santa monica dealer (purchased from) service stated it was normal back in 2009 (service told me they adjusted valves, tried swapping coil/plug, check vacuum leak,). Can Honda do anything for me? I have a 2010 Accord V-6 and have been having the cylinder misfire problem as well. I cant tell you whats going on because of lack of detail and the possibility of something being lost in translation. I heard from my mechanic that Honda issued an extended warranty for the oil consumption issue. Since then my 2010 Crosstour has continued to consume an extra 2 quarts of oil per oil change. Honda has denied the allegations in the class action lawsuit. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. We will see. My dealer also has performed the consumption test and takes it in the back where the run the test which they tell me is more involved than just the dipstick. UPDATE: Reimbursements from the Honda Engine Misfire Class Action Settlement were mailed July 14, 2014. Believe in having an engine misfire issue. JavaScript is disabled. So think of a big mushroom being pulled to and fro in a drinking glass. The failure results in oil leaking onto the alternator which fill cause the alternator to eventually fail resulting in a loss of power to the vehicle. Apparently somehow in your Hondas engine the gaps were aligning. (Federal Judgement for a class action law suit for this and other Honda vehicles was made on 03/21/2014). 2012 Honda Pilot 50K check engine light eventually led to misfire and repair under class action lawsuit. IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU INSIST ON THE SERVICE MANAGER UPFRONT AND REQUEST THE MOST EXPERIENCED MECHANIC ON STAFF. My husband checked and spark plugs will be $16-20 each. Damaged pistons and damaged cylinder walls means an engine overhaul and waiting on the auto machine shop to vat and bore an engine block, etc. At first we got error code P0301, cylinder one misfire, car running rough engine hesitating. I will in fact let others know that Honda is a much different organization and I will no longer be purchasing or recommending Honda. I had a friend of mine hook up his personal scanner and found out cylinder 5 was misfiring. My 2010 honda accord is having a misfire problem..is there any help that i can get..i need my vehicle..we only have one carive already replaced alot of stuff only to have the same problem..please help, I am now going through it Ibought the car in last part of august 2018 and pretty much my warranty extesnion was expired and I am on my own 2010 honda accord with a v6. They should definitely reopen the law suit or start a new one! replaced due to a recall. I own a 2010 Honda Accord with a VCM-2 V-6 that I had to bring to Honda due to misfires, a check engine light (code P0304 was read), and excessive oil burning. I show no oil stains in my driveway and no smoke coming out of my car and no sign of oil on the engine. About 5 months ago, my engine light started blinking and the car started driving weird. I purchased this Model and in Less than 5 months every single problem online HAS actually happened. The cost should come out around $300, but you'll have to do some of the work yourself. possibly the most discussed issue/topic on this forum. Engine pistons in these vehicles may not have been properly hardened during a heat treatment process. My dealership has proven to be a keeper too. They changed rings, gaskets, nuts, bolts, and pistons all covered under warranty. So we replaced them all again. According to the bulletin this is not covered? I was stranded several times with it misfiring so bad that I did not feel comfortable driving it, several complaints to Honda and no answers so I got rid of it Best thing I did! 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. Back in January wife was experiencing what we took to be mild mis-firing so my wife took the Pilot into the the local dealer. Just aggravated Im having to deal with this, and other people as well. Photos: Honda Owner Reviews Write a Review J Rosingana on November 28, 2022 2011 Pilot using excessive amounts of oi that means one more year of additional coverage. odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. My question is where is all this oil going? A recall is a recall lets file another suite. Top Class Actions is a legal news source my left foot for the brake and right foot for the accelerator. This warranty covers any defects or malfunctions in your new VCMuzzler II. Recalls were made for the fuel pump, tires, incorrect central network software programming on the rear-view camera, improper welding of the front frame to the unibody, timing belt teeth separating from the timing belt, and roof pillar problems. Engine repaired as required under settlement. I have a feeling that next week when I call they will say itll be another week. Same issue with 2004 Honda Odyssey, along with several other defects! I had my oil changed and 4 weeks later my car did not register any oil on the oil dip stick so this is effecting more then the V6 Honda Accords because mine is a 4 cylinder. I guess shes not concerned with us getting any longevity since its not looking like we will be repeat Honda owners. I do have a shudder at steady speeds on flat roads which I attribute to the transmission but in retrospect, it might be a misfire. ARE WE STILL COVERED FOR REPAIR OR AM I TOO LATE TO THE PARTY? . Not a valid email address. I dont really feel tight trying to sell car outright know the potential of whats about to go wrong . The work being done for your Honda is a type of major engine repair. A sad loss, even sadder Honda was no help!!! This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. I have been a loyal Honda owner but will never buy another as they have not backed up their product or admitted there is a problem. I didn't see a lot about VCMTuner II so I thought I'd start a new thread. I took it in to the Honda dealership earlier this week and they did a diagnostic. If so, can you reply? A little tutorial might help. We spent thousands in maintenance with the dealer and NO ONE mentioned this. Please see what other class action settlements you might qualify I took it into the dealer and the mechanic quickly recognized it as an engine problem and bet me I was out of oil. I dont understand how this settlement only covers 6-cyl engines. I love my vehicle but I am so frustrated with this already. Has anyone been successful with getting any help from Honda on these issues? I was told its about a week but a week ago I was told its a week too. HOW DO I FIND IT BURNS EXCESS OIL? v. American Honda Motor Co. Inc., Case No. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Is this misfire issue cover by powertrain warranty ? That can be time consuming. Im wondering if anyone else has had issues with cylinders 5 and 6? Almost all gasoline engines are designed this way. I also talked to the Acura Dealer service manager who politely smiled and said it would be $169 for 1 hr assessment and then $369 for a leak down test and then he could recommend an action. I thought all members of a potential class action suit were supposed to be notified and given the option to opt out. Just made another appointment to take it on Saturday to schedule a complete overhaul, which they said can take 2-3 days. It had only 8,800 miles on it and I only drive about 5,000 a year. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. This is soo UNFAIR!!! Not Replied
It has about 88,000 miles on it. However in the past 18 months it has been burning about 2.5 to 3 quarts of oil about every 5,000 miles when I change the oil and filter. . How likely is it to occur? We are DONE! I called the Honda dealership closest to me about it after I had read about this recall/lawsuit and after looking up my VIN, said that I dont have a recall for it so theres nothing they can do. Now my pilot is experiencing same problems as described. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. I have a 2010 Honda accord coupe V6 6 speed manual. Theres an idea. If you purchased a 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2008-2013 Honda Odyssey, 2009-2013 Honda Pilot, 2010-2011 Honda Accord Crosstour or 2012 Honda Crosstour equipped with a 6-cylinder engine with Variable Cylinder Management (VCM-2), you could be eligible to receive compensation for repairs or a warranty extension. 2001 Chrysler Town and Country with 245,000 Miles. Seldom do engines w/only 70K miles on them need this type of repair, so you had a bit of bad luck on this one. My frustration is with the dealership in not answering questions and saying, It should be ready in a few days several times and the days have taken weeks. Yesterday, I have my first symptom of a repeat of this. 2008 Accord V6. Click Here for More Details. Its unfair to not also be included in the settlement when we had no way of knowing this when we purchased our vehicles!! I still thought it should be covered under the TSB around this whole issue, but the Maintenance Manager said they looked the VIN up and even though it is a 2013, the VIN does not show it covered by that TSB or the Settlement agreement. Doesnt seem fair. This is my first and also last Honda vehicle. We should be able to be included in this lawsuit.Thank you. What could be the cause of crank-no start? The junk yard engine would cost $4000 not including labor. I was not original owner. ( there are even videos of this on youtube. ) This recently to my wife while driving on a busy highway. We have a 2013 Odyssey that we purchased in 2016. What can we do? And, Im adding 1qt oil every 750 to 1000 miles. I see this happening to other people and i wonder if anyone can tell me how to get a class action suit started? The dealership told me that Honda knew of the problem. Oil is not cheap these days. Im also wondering if my engine has likely suffered any damage as a result of the issue. I called Honda (888-528-7876) and they told me someone will call me next wk (because today is Fri) and my case manager will try and see if they can work something out to help with payment. This should not be difficult to do if you know how to burn excessive amounts of oil. Notes: If not, why not? It is ridiculous how much gas I go thru for very little driving! Dealership wanted me to do the consumption test, but I went to Pennzoil and it stopped burning oil. I have been a loyal Honda buyer for 25 years. Honda not willing to do the same for a known issue in a 2014 version. I had the same issue with the short excerpt the guy pos Long story short, purchased in May 2022 from the origin Thats what I was thinking. Today Cyl 3 plug finally had to be replaced as well. Odds are this was a service writer and the vast majority have little mechanical knowledge or understanding so they wing it so to speak. We are all having the same issue! Our shop gave us a cope of the service bulletin with the class action lawsuit and said if it happens again to take to the dealership. It is going to the dealer for tests, but I am concerned that the problem will not be resolved before my warranty is up. I bought the car in 2010 with 43k miles on it. Top Class I am done with Honda. Gas mileage has decreased significantly in the past several months. I ran into the same issues Ive only had my 2008 Honda Accord EXL for 3 yrs & had nothing BUT, problems! Lookup honda Torque converter defect, issues. When I took them to task about it, they backed off their initial stance that it was going to cost me around $6000 to repair. Thanks for any input. Code P0301. At first, I appreciated them for not cheating me or charging me for an unnecessary repair, but now after reading this article, I think their just trying to avoid a repair they know theyd be responsible for. I have 2008 Honda Accord, it burn the oil like crazy, i have to keep an eye on it all the time and fill the oil at least 1 litter every week. My dealer just claimed it was normal wear at 20,000 miles which seemed odd that the rear went before the front. (133000k miles) on this vehicle, does the timing. It also has a grinding sound when I first cold start it after it sits for hours at a time. Only had maybe 40,000 miles the first time, only have a 100,000 now. I still have the extended powertrain warranty up to 100.000 miles. I have always LOVED Honda, but now I am very skeptical. 2005 Honda Pilot Problems My 2013 Odyssey suddenly dropped gas mileage in April of 2015 from 28 to 18mpg. Anyone have suggestions as to plan of action? Please advice. Flushed my radiator, flush the transmission etc. Terms and Conditions. Since then I had an oil change and put in 5w-20 synthetic and have been using Redline treatment routinely as a prophylactic. My car does shudder a bit between 20 and 50 mph when it deactivates some of the cylinders. Alex Soto, et al. Now, it is just the engine light. Isnt this illegal?? This website is not intended for viewing or usage by European Union citizens. The gap is what makes it possible to fit the spring over the mushroom. Of Course its out of extended warranty! I did the same thing as the previous time I had a cylinder misfire problem and signed a paper stating I would pay $115 for the check engine light diagnostic if it is not covered by warranty. Is there a separate class action suit for 4 cylinder models? Known issue 2009-2013 Honda Pilot that resulted in class action lawsuit. They have quoted me $6k to put in a used engine, which to me is stupid because there is no reason to believe that the used engine would not have the same issue. Honda covered all costs for repairs and also covered the cost of a rental car for that time period. I still beleive this should have been covered by my extended warranty. So 2 days later it happens again. Honda is now below Kia in my book. Service tech said oh, yeah that is an issue with that model. I bought my 2013 odyssey like 7 months ago and already have misfire in cylinder 2 and 6 last week. And its under a tune up. The recall affects 211,000 vehicles in America and 3,500 Honda Pilot models overseas. Honda told me is wasnt their problem! I have not had any out of pocket expense to date. Since it was the same issue, I did what anyone would do and take it to dealership so they can fix it without having to cover any costs. If I had been I probably wouldnt have purchased it at the end of my lease because once you crack open the engine, it could be a can of worms for a LONG time and 2. Assuming this all works as expected and you are happily driving your van again, bear in mind that it can happen again unless you also use a 'maintenance' additive that will keep it clean. When a class action suits settled like this, someone must notify all customers. Theres 3 or 4 of these semi-circles all together, and the gaps in the rings must not align, otherwise the aligned gaps create a path for oil to leak past the set of 4 rings. It is only cylinders 1-4(because they are the ones that are shut down during ECO). Unable to retrieve recalls information at this time. So, as long as I keep the van I will have to replace every year? I have seen several complaints on this issue and my car is one of them now. A misfire due to valve lash/burnt valve is not the same as a misfire due to plug fouling due to oil consumption past the piston rings. I replaced the spark plugs because there was a p30? This issue needs another class action lawsuit! My next stop is to try VCM muzzler solution. Honda extends Accord, CR-V warranty over fouled piston rings | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews I think previously this was only 7 years / 160,000kms. The permanent fix is to disable VCM with a device called VCMuzzler and do an Italian tune up with fuel system cleaner in the tank, that will clean out the piston rings so it won't burn oil or foul the plugs anymore. This isnt ford or chevy, Its Honda we bought Honda for a reason, if wanted to rebuild and engine every 100k would have gone with another car company. My minivan(11, odyssey) was having this misfire from time to time. Has anyone else had the same problem with an 08 Pilot? A technician typically wont begin on an engine project until the parts arrive. Purchased my 2008 Accord in 2012, had no probs with it until last Friday. Class Members of the Honda engine defect class action settlement include all current and former owners or lessees of one or more of the following Honda vehicles equipped with a 6-cylinder engine with Variable Cylinder Management (VCM-2), purchased or leased in the United States: Full reimbursement of your out-of-pocket repair expenses, plus a Warranty Extension. I think they just reset code. I FEEL A SUDDEN JERK AT HIGHWAY SPEED 60 OR SO. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Original owner of an 09 Odyssey. At this point I have nothing to lose so I might as well try it. But was less than when they told me it was going to be $5300.00. Especially with oil consumption! And also I have a 2004 Honda van now with its 2nd recall on it its going next! I am not sinking $3500 into a car that continues to depreciate and is currently only worth ~$5000 private party. I really wish there would be another lawsuit since so many of us have been left behind in the class action. Isnt Honda and their dealers required to DISCLOSE/ADVISE/MAKE PUBLIC to buyers of vehicles they sell or have for sale that are with in the parameters of the vehicles with the flaws included in a class action law suit?? I bought a 2007 Honda Fit; I have had to change the spark plugs so many times Ive lost count. As, 3rd Gen: 3rd owner - 2007 maroon EX 240,000m (will trade for RA3!). Unfortunately, I am outside of the dates of the. This is our main vehicle that we drive everywhere. Overall, this vehicle is Extremely Noisy. They advised it was from the oil getting into the combustion chamber just like the V6s. Over the last 2 years I had 2 misfires and had to change the spark plugs. Eugene Tompkins. My daughters car is currently at the dealership. My 2011 Honda Odyssey has the same problem. I am so irritated with them. The quote to perform the work is $3500. Honda Odyssey 2013. Are there any other suits or recalls? I have had misfire and jerking but the salesman told me that it was normal with ESO so how will I be able to get the extended warranty in the event my problems are just beginning. Oil consumption readings show its burning a half of a quart per 1,000 miles which is within industry standard.
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